I made a quick trip to my hometown on Friday to visit Dr C., a Chinese acupuncturist. It was an experience; somewhat a clash of cultures?
Dr C gave me a questionnaire to complete upon my arrival. I faithfully complied by filling out all my aches and pains and history. He kept returning to see me laboriously fill it out and finally gave up waiting for me and hustled me into the treatment room!
In the treatment room, he tugged at my jacket and swished at my skirt. It was apparent that he spoke English as his second language as I removed my jacket. He poked at my skirt. Apparently, he had no time for modesty. During my examination, he prodded my Gluteus Maximus and identified the common source of my back pain. He clucked to the effect that my back pain was caused by making me move too soon following child birth. He inquired whether I considered having a third child because then the muscle would likely return to proper place. I told him having child #3 would require a choice between back pain and my sanity; I'd have to choose sanity.
This conversation rang a bell. In fact, a couple weeks ago, a Vietnamese friend made a similar comment: when she came to Canada, her family was astonished how quickly Canadian women were released from hospitals following labour/delivery. In Vietnam, new mothers are nurtured following birth.
These comments have made me reflect on how my grandmother and mother described their post-delivery experiences. My grandmother gave birth to 2 of her 3 children at the farm where the doctor attended along with the mid-wife. She described the mid-wife staying with her for about 10 days before/after the birth of her first son to assist in her settling into her new duty as mother in 1936. My grandfather had to sleep in the barn as there was no room for him to sleep in the house.
My mother described post-delivery as, in effect, one big party (between 1959 to 1971). She described the women having a grand time in the shared hospital rooms and fondly describes ordering double orders of all the food on the menu for her meals. She stayed in hospital (following natural births) for about 1 week each time.
In contrast, I think I was generally out of the hospital with the baby in around 24 hours following natural birth, even though K's birth included induction, forceps and vacuum; N's birth was completely natural. With my first daughter, K, I recall the frustration of trying to breastfeed a child; and the frustration of trying to get K to sleep in my room because I was so sleep deprived due to the lengthy induction, labour and delivery. I was so grateful that I was able to take her to a nursery for about 4 hours that first night before she was returned to my room at 4 a.m.. (I recall that there was subsequent discussion about eliminating the hospital's nursery but I don't know whether this has occurred yet).
I couldn't help but wonder whether this conversation with Dr C reflected a clash of cultures or whether the conversation is lamenting what used to be more readily available in the dominant culture? Are we as a community adequately supporting new mothers? I don't have a particular position either supporting or opposing hospital births versus at-home births. I can't help but wonder either way whether our post-delivery care has improved or is it a step back from where we were 40 or more years ago? Any thoughts?
Hi, MJ! This was very interesting! Sadly, I'm not a mum to have had any experience giving birth myself. Can only go by what I hear, see, observe. I think the 24 hour delivery-then-home scenario had become so common in our western culture. Get them in, get them out seems to be the attitude of hospitals and insurance companies. A little more time for mum and baby to recover and get to know each other we benefit everyone--perhaps even society as a whole. This is on instance where picking up past values and ways would be a positive. :o)
ReplyDeleteI am with Dr. C.
ReplyDeleteI have been fortunate, more or less, to be able to stay in the hospital at least two days after both of my children were born.
I was worried because I heard from all of my friends who explained that the HMO only allows a 24 hour stay.
When C. was born we lived in Colorado and they kept the babies in the nursery most of the time and let me sleep and rest. If I was sleeping, they took her back. My husband had more time with her in the beginning than I did which I think is a good thing.
When J was born, the situation was slightly different since he was 8 weeks early, but they let me stay with him for several days before they released me from the hospital. I was grateful to be able to rest.
I understand the need for corporations to cut money, but at what cost? If your back pain is a result of being released too early, doesn't stand to reason that keeping women in the hospital a little while longer is preventative medicine?? I mean in the end, it all does come down to the bottom line. How much is the back pain going to cost the healthcare system when it is all said and done?
Just a thought.
Hello, MJ! From what you stated in your post it sounds like there is a little bit of both...a clash of culture and maybe a lack of support from the local arena. I'm very surprised to read about the 24 hour stay! I was in the hospital five days and was "itching" to get out! (I had a c-section however) My gal pals who have had natural births stay 2-3 days....this is in Pennsylvania.
ReplyDeleteI do think our "modern society" has taken on so many other cultures...having doulas, keeping your baby in bed with you, using the slings, etc. We've become a mish mosh culture so it really takes figuring out what is best for you
Post-partum care in my opinion is an oxymoron. Such an emphasis on getting home, back into routine, "it's natural what you've been through" and of course it is but disease and illness are also "natural"!!!
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I also like the old fashioned notion. In this world of super fast paced life, it seems that everything needs to be rushed and over and done with way too fast, leaving people clueless as to what to do next. And that's not even in child birth!
ReplyDeleteI do believe in our home town there is no nursery in the hospital. I have been told that if you need extra help with baby overnight, the spouse has to stay on a pad on the floor to help.
ReplyDeleteI know of a girl from work that was in and out of hospital within 6 hours. It would have been quicker but she had to be admitted on the floor before she could be let out.
I loved the 6 nights in after my c-sections, and the baby was looked after in the nursery all night, let mom sleep.
That's a very interesting thought. It is a shame that our public health system focuses so much on symptoms rather than causes.
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